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Hammer and Pickle 9:30 Sun Aug 2
Immigration - how has it affected you personally?

Honest question honest answer?

Hammer and Pickle 10:27 Tue Aug 4
Re: Immigration - how has it affected you personally?

Of course it is a systemic problem, and a fuck-off big one that's going to only get worse in the absence of real policy addressing it.

This is why Cameron talking about "swarms" while while putting up fences (both physical and legal) comes across as a pathetic populist.

mashed in maryland 10:12 Tue Aug 4
Re: Immigration - how has it affected you personally?

Not "immigration" per se but when I was younger and doing shit menial labouring jobs for minimum wage thru agencies it was a pretty open secret that a lot of the foreign workers were being paid cash in hand a lot less. Obviously when the recession hit and a lot of this sort of work dried out, the people who tended to be able to keep these jobs were the ones the employers or whatever could take the piss out of, who were mostly (seemingly illegal) immigrants.

It's not "immigration" or the individual immigrants that a lot of people have a problem with, it's the whole system.

Also every time I go back to London I'm actually surprised at the amount of beggars, you lot living there probably won't notice it changing but as someone who only goes back every 2-3 months it definitely jumps each time.

Other than that, the presence of people from other backgrounds and countries in the uk has been almost overwhelmingly positive for me and I'd never deny that.

Still think tony blair is a cunt tho.

Westham67 8:57 Tue Aug 4
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Annony 2:35 Tue Aug 4

You sure he didnt mean Paddys ;0)

Hammer and Pickle 8:49 Tue Aug 4
Re: Immigration - how has it affected you personally?

Didn't mean to be rude Gav - only trying to work out how much this is a media/party political culture of hate and ignorance.

13 Brentford Rd 8:37 Tue Aug 4
Re: Immigration - how has it affected you personally?

It's okay Cameron has it all under control now Landords can evict illegal immigrants.

Far East Hammer 8:21 Tue Aug 4
Re: Immigration - how has it affected you personally?

My father immigrated to the UK, where he met my mum. So without immigration I wouldn't be here.

mentor 7:42 Tue Aug 4
Re: Immigration - how has it affected you personally?

There are only 200 million of them. Lets get them all over here.

Coffee 7:32 Tue Aug 4
Re: Immigration - how has it affected you personally?

I have three friends who married stunning Brazilian women. All their wives turned out to be highly stroppy, and all are now divorced.

mentor 7:21 Tue Aug 4
Re: Immigration - how has it affected you personally?

Is she here legally, because there was one Brazilian illegal immigrant who got shot up.

Gavros 2:36 Tue Aug 4
Re: Immigration - how has it affected you personally?

Yes, my girlfriend is Brazilian, so go do one.

Annony 2:35 Tue Aug 4
Re: Immigration - how has it affected you personally?

He said they used to return the boots to the shop for new pairs all the time as they were worn out quickly and they found out that's what they were doing.

Annony 2:32 Tue Aug 4
Re: Immigration - how has it affected you personally?

67, my old man told me that when we lived near Brixton they brought the Jamaican's over in the 50's to drive the buses and other jobs, they would rent a flat and divide it with a curtain. One would work during the day while the other was asleep, when he came back to sleep the other one would borrow his work boots to go out and work at night.

SilverSurfer 2:00 Tue Aug 4
Re: Immigration - how has it affected you personally?

same as the EU.

SilverSurfer 1:58 Tue Aug 4
Re: Immigration - how has it affected you personally?

Don't remember a referendum about the the channel tunnel, but I do remember no one agreed with it.

White Pony 1:25 Tue Aug 4
Re: Immigration - how has it affected you personally?

I can't say that it has all that much.

, 12:01 Tue Aug 4
Re: Immigration - how has it affected you personally?

I have a much cleaner car these days.

alphaharps 11:47 Mon Aug 3
Re: Immigration - how has it affected you personally?

Ensured I was born, and not gassed by Nazis.
and provided me with some amazing cuisine

I'd say bad drivers too, but experienced some awful British drivers today on the A1

eusebiovic 11:45 Mon Aug 3
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Italian John 11:09 Mon Aug 3

Westham67 10:47 Mon Aug 3

Italian John 11:09 Mon Aug 3
Re: Immigration - how has it affected you personally?

No ifs, not buts. Cameron is a fucking liar, his government has conned the electorate on many things but immigration has been the biggest cop out of all.

Westham67 10:47 Mon Aug 3
Re: Immigration - how has it affected you personally?

hornchurchsteve 7:43 Mon Aug 3

It actually started well before "Wilson and Heath" After the War the new welfare state and Nationalized industry required employees from Bus conductors to Nurses, So people of the the commonwealth were needed to come and work in the UK, Bit different now they are allowed to be in the uk as cheap labour and a counter to the white working class holding any form of power. Not their fault blame the Governments

eusebiovic 10:01 Mon Aug 3
Re: Immigration - how has it affected you personally?

tunwhu 9:24 Mon Aug 3

Pubs closing are the result of pub companies (PubCos) making it unsustainable for a licensee to profitably run a pub - because they are asset-strippers who see more value in selling most of their estate to bottom feeder property developers to convert into flats to pay their shareholders dividends. They have no interest in the social aspect of pubs as assets of community value.

Together with our MP's who continue to tax beer and spirits sold in pubs whilst neglecting to do the same for supermarkets after totally deregulating off licencing laws

Why do you think they continue to do that?

It's a huge scam but most people don't know about it because they blame other factors instead of investigating the under-lying reality.

Yes, some immigrants drink less but the huge swathe of pubs closing up and down the country at large isn't down to them.

Country pubs in villages all over Tory-voting white middle England are being decimated as well.

There is a good reason for that...

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